Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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Hi there, maybe this is the wrong forum, but I wasn't sure about where they should go...First things first... Has that coffee machine been fixed yet? I submitted some images today of London Landmarks... Many of them accepted, some rejected (the first site to reject any of them, but that is Crestock's prerogative) My question is as follows: Why? Three rejections kindof irked me, their reason being: "Due to similarities of formerly uploaded photos." Now all three images I submitted was of Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament in London (11 images in total) and they were all different, showing more of the buildings, less of the buildings, copy space in the sky, or copy space in the water, daylight and nightime, horisontal and vertical One of these rejected photos showed Big Ben and Bridge street at night, the only one to do so... So, why, if I put up a collection of images which gives designers greater choice , would you deem them to be too similiar? I think the reviewer made a bad call on these three..
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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Sorry for the second post, but I cannot edit the first one.I tried to contact Crestock by e-mail directly in the abovementioned regard, but only received a delivery Failure notice: "user is over quota"
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I understand your questions, and since it's sort of new here, good for all of us to learn the answers to this.
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It has happened to me also and I could not but notice that other photographers have the same image sideways and portrait and similar one of the same. It must be that they chose to say that, but that is not the reason. I bet the editor rejects teh photos and then they ar epassed to a technician that manages the rejection and explains the rejection by saying anything he may think may apply.
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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I expected a Crestock Reviewer to answer one of the two rejection posts... what gives?
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I don't know - they answer some posts and not others. Maybe they don't want to answer anything that questions their standards or rules? I asked a simple one too, and still no answer, but they answered the other I asked.Maybe just not enough time...if there's no staff they don't have time for the forums or something? :cool:
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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Well, Until I have a fairly clear idea of what they want on this site, they are moving down my uploads list.Unfortunately my bandwidth and time costs money, not things I want to waste on uploading the wrong type of images to a site that focuses on something else
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Most of the microstock sites available on the internet seem to have rather similar ideas of what makes a good photocollection. We have entered this competition because we feel we can offer something special. In the film "This is Spinal Tap" (1984) by Rob Reiner the guitarist claims that his amplifier goes to eleven, to emphasize that his is better than the rest. Without any further comparison with this film, we here at Crestock really wants to achieve having a stock photo collection that is one notch above the rest. There are several ways of doing this, and our approach has been getting experienced photographers working with Crestock in all joints.
The following are our criterias for approval:
1. The photo needs to be somewhat outstanding and unique.
2. That the photo that can be used metaphorically and/or
contains a human expression, situation or mood.
3. Include people, the more the better.
So, when uploading ask yourself carefully:
Is this an outstanding photo?
Is this a unique photo?
Can this photo be used creatively?
Is this a photo with a particular mood?
Please refrain from uploading photos of cats, dogs, insects, flower or landscapes, unless they have exeptional qualities!
By that we mean exceptional!
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Well, thanks for the clarification - it's nice to know what not to submit. :)Are you trying to appeal to a specific market, rather than a wide variety of purchasers? Maybe a list of what you want most would be helpful. I think though if you are limiting the types of images you want you will be limiting your purchasers too.
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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Well, that was a lot of typing without actually saying anything...Sorry, but I am not biting... The purpose of Crestock is NOT to have exceptional images, but to have images of technically good quality for sale... Images that designers require to give good end products to their clients... You are here for no other purpose than to make money and you are our representatives to the market place... So when you reject a technically good image, taken to give designers oppertunities to fit it to their design, I become worried about the rest of your strategies.... These were not shots of cats, dogs and daisies, these are travel images of London... #97 on the all time most searched keywords in STOCK!!! A Keyword you only have 53 images of in your library?!? (one showing a bicycle? another a map? and three showing glasses on a newspaper (with an image clearly showing, is it editorial(?) or was that image also taken by the photographer that submitted it?) No, I am sorry, but I have lost all confidence in your ability to represent me as a photographer... I do not have these grand delusions that I am the worlds best stock photographer, or that my images are masterpieces of the stock world (or any world for that matter) but I must say, to give such a rediculous answer to a question that was asked so that I can accurately choose images to upload here... Dissapointing... very dissapointing indeed...
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We shall be the first to admit:
There are many staff members evaluating images. Therefore; there will to a certain degree occur evaluations that may appear inconsequent, compared to previous evaluations.
But in general we maintain a common and indeed strict evaluation policy.
In today's market there are a few sites that suceed in the micropayment sector. And there are many which don't.
When it comes to site design, functionality, recruiting, market approach - and last, but not least, image evaluation - we have chosen our strategy. And we will true to this.
At this vulnerable time of our funding, we do not want to express this strategy in too many words. But one hing is perfectly clear:
If the photographers at the end of the day don't sell images, we will not succeed. And because of this: Every step we take on the road to a successful global market launch of Crestock later this spring, have these things in mind: The buyers must like Crestock, our site and our collection. The photographers have to sell images. Many images.
Of course there will be minor disagreements along the same road. But we hope and believe that you all have the patience to experience the final result together with us.
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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I have received this e-mail from Crestock:"We appreciate your eagerness and interest in Crestock!
However, the Crestock forum is not a place to discuss rejections" So that must be why they are constantly deleting my posts
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I must say that you at Crestock argue and talk like true politicians. And that is not ment as a compliment in my world. No further explanation is neede i presume. "Optimistic people have a lack of useful information!"
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I have to comment that this is one of the strangest threads I have read. Forgiss is certainly no amature; well known and respected by myself and many others around the microsites in the short time I have been shooting for stock; and yet I personally have found it easier to predict this site's acceptance/rejection than any other I submit to. Not to say it is easy here, just that I find very few suprises.
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My post was not a comment on the explanation one gets in regard to rejections, mearly a general comment to the posts here at the forum.Anyway, I might have had a bad day (tryin to excuse my behavour :D), but I was provoked by the sensorchip of peoples posts. Freedom of speech is our religion. Yeah I'm norwegian, and proud of it. "Optimistic people have a lack of useful information!"
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Well, Crestock has been good to me. I've only had my first digi cam for a few months now and they have allready accepted 12 of my pictures :D. Im an amateur to photography, but I have read what they want and I send pics that I think fit the requirements. They may not be the photos I am most proud of or like the most (many of those have been rejected), but remember people, Crestock is a business, and just like any other business, at the end of the day they need to make $$$ to pay the bills ;). Photos that will sell will be accepted over photos that may look great but have no market. Good or bad, right or wrong, thats how it is. Now, with that said...GO BUY MY PHOTOS U BIZTCHES!!!! Photographer Gollum16Have a nice day. Be cool :cool:
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1. hi!2. Im a graphic designer and a photographer and have faculty diploma for both. Id just like to say that i think that crestock is in most cases doing good job when it comes to filtering the uploads, I would only sugest even higher quality of chosen photos, because your new clients will be impresed with the stocks "shiny" colection and come back... I give a high A+ for the webs simplicityand ease of use. go for the quality not quantity
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I don't understand why are you being so keen to get those 3 accepted Forgiss. Your right is to upload them and you "risk" your bwidth and time, hoping that you'll make money, but the Crestock has the same right to reject any of those, as they hope to make some money too.
I know that those $10 a piece is tempting, but if you don't like the way people here deal with it, leave for many $1 per photo sites :) The choice is yours, but the rules are theirs.
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Forgiss
Tshwane (Pretoria), South Africa
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Voyager,I think you came into this discussion way to late to give any constructive criticism here, no offence. The problem was not in those three images, but in the lack of clear guidelines to what Crestock would like in their library. The result was that a bunch of my posts were deleted, and quite a few photographers felt that this was unacceptable for them as well, and decided to stop uploading to Crestock until they have clarified what they are going to do with the site... This is not a part time, upload when I get a chance, enterprise for me... I shoot with 13mp cameras, not point and shoots. We are about 5 days from completing our new business set and I just took delivery of 6 new strobes for that set. My point is, that I spend a lot of time generating different types of images for different types of libraries... I believe in Microstock and the earnings it brings, but I am also represented by Trads. I have almost 1,000 people shots in a business setting (general and on white background) yet, they are not here on Crestock, because Crestock's response was that they are looking for "exceptional" images, instead of saying: "we want to focus on food", or sport, or people, or everything, just not a landscape, or cityscape, or travel and tourism. Most people that know me from the microstocks, knows that I defend the sites heavily, for the right to do what they want. But in the same vein, they are responsible for representing us to the buying market. They are not doing me a favour, and I am not expecting any favours from them... It's business. And business has guidelines and effective communication to it's suplliers (that's you and me) if it wants to succeed. I wish Crestock all the best, I wouldn't want it any other way, but I will sit on the sideline and watch until they sorted themselves out, and If I am still welcome later, I might even restart my uploads..
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I understand where you are coming from.I have also uploaded images that have all been accepted at Istock.com and were rejected here for the reason of similar to other previously uploaded images. I was thinking int he same way as you. As a designer, you may need extra space for an image and may choose the image that has more open space or has a horizontal view instead of vertical. I never had an image rejected at Istock due to similarity of previous images. They may understand that they need to give designers more options. And you are right, I would not waste too much time uploading to this site, but they do have an easier way to upload then they do at IStock. also since most of the time I upload to Istock, I already have the images ready to upload and aonly have to do a bulk upload. I have had many images rejected at Istock and they get accepted here at crestock, b ut after reviewing why Istock rejected them, I agree with them. Most of them were rejected because I had forgotten to remove parts of logo or compnay name. I would like to have those images replaced with corrected images. This is a new site so we need to give them time to work out minor problems. I actually made my first sale today. remember I made two dollars on one sale. the most I make at IStock is one dollar per image. But most people will buy low resolution image at Istock due to the low price. JC |