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Posted by frestyl: Ego

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It was a little late/early last night when I posted so I wasn't of mind to add much more then the title. I have had some questions on the title so here is my response.

When you look at this think of it in the psychoanalytical sense. Just in case your not familiar with Freud's "structural theory". ID, Ego and Super-Ego.
ID is to the left and Ego ( The title ) is center and then Super-Ego is on the right Ego of course is struggling to keep the balance.

I would like to also thank Crestock for this contest it has been a while since I have created for just the sake of creating and it has inspired me to create a series called "D-structural theory". When I'm done I'll post them.

Good Luck All!

Crestock,

Just have the judges' votes count 90%. The voting is rigged beyond compare. Almost nobody's score reflected their true value. And how are you going to deal with the fact that some people only have 3 votes and others have 50+ votes? The people who got little votes will be biased severely by those who voted.

I was about to submit my own work using the provided images until I saw how the voting was clearly suspect and there are many re-purposed works in here created by high-end professionals.

There are some really decent works in here with low scores - probably some of the people who could really benefit from the prizes. But of course, the have's will always best the have not's...

Sad.

I concur with other opinions regarding the integrity of some of the public ratings. I would be happy to have the judges votes count 100% towards the final decision.

I agree that the voting is odd currently bad, but I think it will be okay when all is said and done. I definately see some good work that does not deserve a 1 score. Hell, submitting the ostrich image by itself should be worth a 1. Color his beak red; maybe a 2. Most of the images here are at least 5 and above. I can't remember any worthy of a 1.

Good bust Nixa...you must work for Interpol!

Lines seem to be the trend, I noticed allot of lines this week especially in the form of twirly neon rainbow lines shooting out of holes and lenses. Which strikes me as funny because light travels into a camera not out of one. Anyway I personally couldn't afford the plug-in packs so I took it on as a challenge to learn how to make some effects on my own, which in most cases you have a great deal more control over. however if your in a bind and have a job to get off the floor the plug-ins are quick and effective.

Where would one find these plugins, I am intreagued ... website link?
I personally have been doing everything by hand, but I would be interested to see what is offered.

Very creative haha! If this wins you'll get Crestock a mention on the Colbert Report for sure..of course, Colbert will insist on you splitting the prize with him lol.

bryans (12/20/2006)

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I concur with other opinions regarding the integrity of some of thepublic ratings. I would be happy to have the judges votes count 100% towards the final decision.

Straight up.

There's too much at stake to have people who created multiple accounts skewing the vote.

stefanmstrpln (12/20/2006)

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Lines seem to be the trend, I noticed allot of lines this week especially in the form of twirly neon rainbow lines shooting out of holes and lenses. Which strikes me as funny because light travels into a camera not out of one. Anyway I personally couldn't afford the plug-in packs so I took it on as a challenge to learn how to make some effects on my own, which in most cases you have a great deal more control over. however if your in a bind and have a job to get off the floor the plug-ins are quick and effective.

Where would one find these plugins, I am intreagued ... website link?
I personally have been doing everything by hand, but I would be interested to see what is offered.

There is no plugin for culs. They are just saying that one exists because they don't have the skill to make them and want to make it sound like the artists who are capable of drawing them suck. This is their defense mechanism.

TokyoTech (12/21/2006)

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stefanmstrpln (12/20/2006)

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Lines seem to be the trend, I noticed allot of lines this week especially in the form of twirly neon rainbow lines shooting out of holes and lenses. Which strikes me as funny because light travels into a camera not out of one. Anyway I personally couldn't afford the plug-in packs so I took it on as a challenge to learn how to make some effects on my own, which in most cases you have a great deal more control over. however if your in a bind and have a job to get off the floor the plug-ins are quick and effective.

Where would one find these plugins, I am intreagued ... website link?
I personally have been doing everything by hand, but I would be interested to see what is offered.

There is no plugin for culs. They are just saying that one exists because they don't have the skill to make them and want to make it sound like the artists who are capable of drawing them suck. This is their defense mechanism.

Shame on whoever said there was a plug-in. It would be a great bureau time saver however... Never the less I still can't afford them :crying:

frestyl (12/21/2006)

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TokyoTech (12/21/2006)

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stefanmstrpln (12/20/2006)

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Lines seem to be the trend, I noticed allot of lines this week especially in the form of twirly neon rainbow lines shooting out of holes and lenses. Which strikes me as funny because light travels into a camera not out of one. Anyway I personally couldn't afford the plug-in packs so I took it on as a challenge to learn how to make some effects on my own, which in most cases you have a great deal more control over. however if your in a bind and have a job to get off the floor the plug-ins are quick and effective.

Where would one find these plugins, I am intreagued ... website link?
I personally have been doing everything by hand, but I would be interested to see what is offered.

There is no plugin for culs. They are just saying that one exists because they don't have the skill to make them and want to make it sound like the artists who are capable of drawing them suck. This is their defense mechanism.

Shame on whoever said there was a plug-in. It would be a great bureau time saver however... Never the less I still can't afford them :crying:

Maybe not plugins, but I believe there are brushes that will make those glowing whispy lines.

You can use After effect or Maya or anythng else with a particle generator to make the effects, you just make the movie clip huge, and export large with what ever background you need. I use to use such tricks alot for smoke effects, or other particle type work.

I doubt either was used in the pieces in this contest. and a plug in for such effects wouldn't even look that good.

How would one go about making the ribbons coming out of the lens as seen in this image:

I'm not sure what is all that rumor about.
Judges are pretty tough and I wouldn't be afraid about that kitten ;)

And I don't care if people use "hejzy" effects, they are trendy and could look pretty cool. I just don't understand why they use them in this contest.
I thought that we all developed this kind of tricks because we didn't have good quality materials, and that's the funny part because at the beginning crestock gave us that kind of stuff.

warsaw hit ctrl/command+T and cross the control points. that's all.

SeanClarity (12/21/2006)

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You can use After effect or Maya or anythng else with a particle generator to make the effects, you just make the movie clip huge, and export large with what ever background you need. I use to use such tricks alot for smoke effects, or other particle type work.

I doubt either was used in the pieces in this contest. and a plug in for such effects wouldn't even look that good.

Most of the wavy "lines" you are referring to can be made in PS using the pen tool - you can create your own custom shapes and save them also.

These effects are in vogue right now - and some of these we've been seeing are even stock vectors that have been purchased then adapted to the base images they're working with. I think most people that have a bone to pick are making the point that many of the "top" images are being made with existing artwork and merely getting a fresh coat of paint slapped on using attributes from the contest images; which seems a bit underhanded to me as well.

I actually like the wavy lines - have no problem with them.  I think they look great.  It's just that I'd never seen that style before I entered this contest.  All of a sudden they are everywhere and I feel like I've had my head in the sand for the past year.  That's what is so great about contests like these - everyone gets to trade fresh ideas.  I'm sure I'll find good use for them lines sometime soon :)  I would like that plug-in though... I just got the one that turns stock photos into amazing underwater city scenes - with the manta ray update.  It's awesome.  Hopefully it will work on my new Mac.  Lol.

plugins make effects that can be made more realistic without....enjoyed painting the liquid, shadows,bevels etc in my pic

Hi all,..



just been looking at all the posts(rather the concerns that relate to the public voting) ,... I'm sure that the judges know what they are doing,... and probably are aware of the scenarios raised and know how to deal with it!

Regardless, I am just happy and thrilled to have had the opportunity to put my entry :D

As for the ones inquiring about plug-ins,.. for peels, swirly lines, 3D programs.. they might exists,... However photoshop has all the tools you need to create them.... all you need is the imagination and then put the toolsets provided in PS to that end....

Due to the last hour confusion when the server closed earlier than expected,... I didn't get a chance to explain my entry... like I said I was glad that it went through....

My entry was done entirely in PS6... the total execution time took 5-6 hours,... developing the concept,... however took almost a day... I was keen on keeping the concept simple, yet offer enough visual contrast to intrigue the eye....

I started by crafting all the various as separate psd files (each with their separate layers) for example the notes.. I constructed the initial credit note(with the dude ) and then churned out over 50 versions,... which in turn, were subjected to dodge-burn tool till they produced the results I wanted.

The final piece (canvas) was an exercise in composition (placement, repetition, depth cues)
.... and that's it!... I'll be putting more information(dissecting the entry) on sitespruce.com

anyway,.. here is the entry I am talking about ...



http://www.crestock.com/uploads/competition/entries/633022026855781250-thumb.jpg

Oh,.. and if you feel inclined to ;) just go ahead make my day:cool:,...
vote for me


thanks
Lawrence:D