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Another rejection/ wrong camera?
Posted in Newbies on 5. April 2007 by myszka

Hi all,

I have a Panasonic FZ50 Lumix - any other users of this model? I only shot in ISO 100 and mostly in RAW format.

A lot of my photos were rejected due to "technical quality". I am not sure what does it mean. Bad lightening? Noise?

Don't take me wrong, I am not complaining, but I would like to have a more specific comment on my photos so I can learn from my mistakes.

Hope to hear from you guys soon :)


RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Hi,
I'm quite glad that the words 'wrong camera' were mentioned in the heading here, because I would for the most part put these issues down to the technical limitations of the camera, even if that might not be the answer you were hoping for.

Extremely high resolution (10mp) combined with a small sensor and a lens that is struggeling to keep up with the resolution of the sensor, is how I would describe the situation here. This is by no means restricted to your camera, 10 Megapixels sounds impressive, but I would go as far as to say that very, very few 10mp images not taken with a DSLR will have a technical standard that we are comfortable with.

There seems to be quite noticable noise in your images, even at ISO 100, and this can only partially be controlled by noise reduction.
There is also critical colour fringing, this could perhaps to some extent have been controlled with careful raw processing.

A couple of illustrations of the issues mentioned here:

http://www.crestock.com/uploads/forum/156549-detail.jpg

http://www.crestock.com/uploads/forum/156553-detail.jpg

The Crestock team
Posted: 5. Apr 2007 by Crestock
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Thank you very much for your reply.

Not sure what to do, except of buying a better camera:crying:

Posted: 6. Apr 2007 by myszka
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
I use a Panasonic FZ30, and I have to downsample all my images to the smallest size Crestock will accept. I'm saving up for a Nikon D80 and I hope I'll have significantly better image quality with that. With their tiny sensor size, 'bridge' or DSLR-style cameras just can't cut it (as I now know to my cost) which is a great shame. Week after week I read reviews of this type of camera, and they all have the same shortcomings.
Posted: 8. Apr 2007 by friendlydragon
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Thanks friendlydragon, I will do the same for a time being. And, yeah, saving for a new camera is a great idea - pity I bought my Panasonic only 2 months ago:(

Have a happy Easter

Posted: 8. Apr 2007 by myszka
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
I shoot with the Sony R1 at the moment but i wish i bought A true DSLR. MY main rejections are for focus problems i have a hard time with the LCD viewfinder and screen.
Posted: 9. Apr 2007 by Oddshot
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Stock agencies in general are very anal about noise, so NoiseNinja, NeatImage or similar might be a good buy as images from small-sensor cameras are generally quite noisy even at low ISO settings.
Posted: 9. Apr 2007 by friendlydragon
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Oddshot (4/9/2007)
I shoot with the Sony R1 at the moment but i wish i bought A true DSLR. MY main rejections are for focus problems i have a hard time with the LCD viewfinder and screen.


Being a Canon 350D user myself, I should just say that I do myself have a fair bit of problems getting the focus right. The reason is that the viewfinder is tiny (a result of the low price and size of the camera) which quite simply means you have a small view to look at when determining if you've nailed the focus or not. This is especially a problem in low light (flash) conditions, where I pretty much cross my fingers and hope for the best when pushing the shutter. I suppose the best thing about DSLRs with regards to focus, is that their focus systems are more sophisticated in general than in compacts, and of course, viewing the actual view through the lens, instead of looking at an LCD with limited resolution is also a good advantage.

If getting the focus right is your main issue now, a consumer DSLR probably won't solve your problems completely, but it'll definately help out. And of course, an SLR gives you a whole range of other improvements, compared to a compact, you just get a whole new level of controll of the images you shoot.

I got my hands on a Canon 20D a while back, which has a delicious, large viewfinder. I doubt that it's worth the extra cash though, but it sure would be nice...
Posted: 10. Apr 2007 by Elbajong
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
I find the R1 a good all around camera will amost the same features as a DSLR manual focus ring, carl zeiss lens, 10.3mp and large cmos sensor (my pick over the lumnix). But for the $800 i spent i do wish i picked up a entry level DSLR. Shooting in raw data transfer is so slow drives me crazy.

I will spend the money soon on a DSLR and the sony will be my backup and general camera
Posted: 10. Apr 2007 by Oddshot
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Reading the equipment sported by the posters in this thread makes me feel rather outclassed. I've a Nikon 5400, and keep getting rejected w/ "compression error" or "artifacts." Do I need a better camera? Or can I eliminate these problems w/software. Advice, please. Thank you.
Posted: 25. Apr 2007 by CLIAO
RE: another rejection/ wrong camera?
Well, if you haven't already done so (and you probably have) you could check and make absolutely sure that the camera is set to the highest quality setting, probably called something like Large/Fine, Superfine or something to that effect.

I wouldn't bet on that resolving the problem though, in many compacts even the highest quality JPEG setting compresses the files so much that you get quite noticable JPEG artifacts and compression flaws. And if that's the case, the camera upgrade route is pretty much the only other alternative available.
Posted: 25. Apr 2007 by gudmund
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