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From my last batch of more than 800 photos more than 700 are rejected without any explanation. Some of them have sold in hundreds at other microstocks.
Did some reviewer made huge mistake or this is a Crestock policy to reject 90% without any explanation?
I did uploaded such large number of photos as a try to boost my sales but after so much rejections I feel very disapointed with Crestock. :angry:
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Gizmo,
Our apologies if you haven't been contacted about this case before. We're currently looking into all of your recent rejections, but because of the large amount of pictures that need to be reevaluated, it does take some time.
Again, our apologies, we hope to resolve this as soon as possible.
Josh
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I think Crestock's reviewers are making MAJOR cash by just qiuckly pressing the rejection button in MASS, without spending the time to evaluate each and every image like they are supposed to. I've experienced these mass rejections myself. And usually with pics from different shoots, Indoor/Wildlife/Outdoor etc. and all rejected for the same reason, next time the reviewer just use the a different reason.Sometimes I've just hit the submit button and not even a minute later I get the "Evaluation Complete" email from crestock. There is NO WAY that they could have evaluated ALL the images in the batch so qiuckly. I know this, because I'm a reviewer at another Stock site and it takes me pretty damn long to review each image according to all the criteria that site reqiures from a reviewer. Crestock's reviewers are taking shortcuts and getting paid for it. I think it's time for Crestock to do a clean out of their lazy and cheating reviewers.
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And a way TO MUCH 0.25 sales. I don't remember when was my last "normal" sale :(
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Our response to to the recent inspection issues.
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Crestocks official response sounds ver promising and fair. I really appreciate all the efforts made by the staff at Crestock to ensure fairness and quality.
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Thank you.
My photos are evaluated and part of them are now accepted but I still think that Crestock acceptance policy are way to high looking at very low sales.
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I'm also having huge amounts rejected that sell very very well on other sites, I am not going to waste any more time here.
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How long back will you look in your re-evaluation? I submitted earlier this summer (May) 450 images exactly 90% were rejected! Do I have to upload again or will these images still be re-evaluated? Also the meta data was not read correctly, most of my images have now "Artist" as title, perhaps somebody should also look into this... Just for the records, after this surge of rejections I didn't upload anymore, seemed just a waste of bandwidth to me. And yes, also just for the records, many of my bestsellers were rejected whilst many of the few accepted are not my bestsellers... Go figure the quality review! SY
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Re-evaluation is fine; some of mine I feel were error but I accepted the original business plan here of holding the quality line higher than the competition.
The problem I have is that when I accepted that premise, a download was worth $2 bucks. I haven't seen one of those in months, but I get occasional .25 once in while.
Crestock wants only the best work, but is now paying very little and has a very low volume to boot. I stopped uploading model released images some time ago because of the disappointing results both in reviews and in sales. I have been uploading other shots, hoping to make a payout rather than give up what I do have in earnings and to give it a chance to improve.
If it doesn't start to improve real soon though; I am going to stop feeding wasted time after wasted time. Crestock asked contributors to give them time until the launch; and then I assumed some time afterwards to get word out etc.; but time is rapidly running out for me.
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hospitalera, we're only really looking into a few isolated cases where some uploaders have been affected by some questionable evaluations. Crestock has quite high standards and thats not something we make excuses for. The high standards we employ are so that we don't have a collection full of snapshots and unattractive pictures that customers need to filter through to find that good picture they're looking for. The downside to this is that inexperienced inspectors can miss out on some great pictures, we're trying to avoid this as much as possible from our end with the aid of more training and awareness of the microstock industry. But. as well as this, its very helpful to have good contact with the photographers who can let us know when we've missed some. In answer to your question, we will have a look at the batch you mentioned and make sure we haven't missed any stock material there.
Hope that helps, and you'll be hearing from us shortly as to what re-evaluations have been made.
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Was deleting the rest of the thread really necessary. There was legitimate concerns present; brushing them under the rug by deleting posts isn't going to help. Most people are already thinking the same; some real dialogue from management would have been far more effective if things are indeed going to improve.
You say that sales are increasing exponentially; perhaps they are for subscription downloads. Problem is, those downloads are only a quarter ... long shot from the $2 most of us signed up for. I do not mind subscription sales, but subscription sales by definition are supposed to mean volume.
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I'm sorry, was there some part of the thread deleted? Thats not something we usually do, unless under the worst of circumstances. Are you sure the rest of the thread isn't just hiding on the first page?
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Indeed I will have to admit you are right; and I apologize for that!
Guess I should be a little more familiar with the forum layout here...I never noticed that it had gone to more than one page.
>leaves to go wipe egg off face<
I would still like to here management's side of my concerns though. I guess I'm looking for some re-assurance because I don't really want to give up on this site. I love the idea of it being a step above in quality, but I want to know that really is the case if I am gambling the time to support the site.
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JenDen,
As you're a contributor, and that makes you very much involved in the success of Crestock, you deserve to know where things stand.
Whilst I'm not management in the way that I make growth charts and play with calcluators, I can easily say that Crestock is getting up to and above 2000 uploads per day. Thats from you, the contributors, which I think is great, a great start anyhow. Uploads is whats really essential to one of the newer sites starting off. It keeps us really busy with reviewing pictures and training people to review them too. We're going to keep our high standards, as that will pay off in the future. Please remember though, we have high standards, but thats no excuse to reject 700 of 800 from one of our respected contributors. Thats just human error, I'm afraid.
I know theres people working on the site right now, they've got some great ideas and there will be constant improvements.
I know your concern is sales, that comes later on after a lot more uploads. We have a great marketing team and one of the true professionals in the field brainstorming together with them. The future looks bright there.
We encourage open dialogue between the photographers and the staff here at Crestock. If you're new, give me a quick email and I'll take a look at your pictures and help wherever possible. If you receive a lot of rejections, and you're frustrated that the reasons given aren't making a lot of sense, give us an email. The reasons are not to say simply, 'not good enough..', but is more to say, 'take a look at this, maybe this could sell better if...etc.' Rejections are always going to sound harsh, but we hope they can help you along your stock journey.
I worked for a stock photographer when they were starting out (now, one of the best around), that photographer received an embarassing amount of rejections in the beginning, but the difference was how they could take it, using those reasons to improve. Not many agencies reject any of their pictures these days.
Sorry for dribbling a bit, but hope that answers the question, whatever it was ;)
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No, I am not having an issue with rejections. I understand the goal of Crestock in terms of quality; but I still shoot for several sites. That leaves my approval percentage a bit low here. I suppose I could skip the ones that I know are somewhat marginal when uploading here; but its kind of an assembly line process to all sites. While I would like to only market the top 20% of my portfolio, that other 80% is generating substantial revenue for me even though not its not absolutely pristine shots.
You comment that sales come later ... after a lot more uploads. Are you referring to CS needing a larger collection before sales will pick up or to my rather small portfolio?
I understand I don't have a large contribution here; but I am comparing downloads to competitive sites who have the same images - thus still an equivilant comparison.
If you mean that CS still needs to increase the collection, I can understand that. I do hope that CS has the financial backing to make it thru that period though ... I have been burnt in the past by a site that didn't quite make it.
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Yeah, we want pictures. We're hungry for them.
Crestock building a bigger collection starts at the level of the photographer/contributor. As one of the newer sites, we need photographers that are willing to commit to Crestock to build up a solid base of pictures. I believe sales aren't so good for a lot of photographers because they are just 'testing the waters' here. That is, uploading a batch of maybe 20 and waiting to see how they do. The problem is that when a large majority of photographers do that, then nobody really benefits.
I would suggest rather uploading as much as possible. Its a bit of comittment in terms of work, but in the end will be greatly more beneficial to both parties.
If you're ever in doubt about uploading large amounts of pictures, give us a quick email and we'll make sure that they receive special attention and extra care.
I hope that I'm at liberty to say that Crestock has a great business plan and a lot of really generous backers. We can be around for a long time.
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Answer to joshDkI stop uploading to crestock for a while now, even those are already up I did not process them.
For what…….????????? For 0.25 cents a download from time to time???? I subscribe to you to sell a image for 2$ not $0.25 .
Even SS raise the pay to $0.30, this month I sold for $193.30 - 640 images and is not month end.
I agreed to split the earnings half with you the agency, but please we must split the work also.
I did my part, you got the images, you crestock did your part to sell them….???? Everywhere you go on the net, google ad, etc . you see adverts with SS, IS, DT, did I ever saw a crestock ad ,no.
Maybe you chose the business model of self sustaining , is fine by me but guys for such a long time I did not see results. People say microstock is a catch 22 paradox where you cannot win regardless of your choice. A stock website cannot generate revenue until they do not have a sustainable portfolio to attract buyers, yet it can’t attract contributors to build the portfolio until they can produce buyers to provide contributors with earnings.
Many overcome this paradox with different strategies, definitely yours doesn’t work, I am just talking from my point o |